2024 is here and we are back recording new episodes. We briefly catch up on what we did during the downtime like all the Soccer Kyle coached and the genealogy work that Chris dug into. New full interview episodes coming soon.
The Loose Connection podcast is Hosted by Chris Leonard & Kyle Chirnside
email us at looseconnectionpod@gmail.com
The Loose Connection podcast is Hosted by Chris Leonard & Kyle Chirnside
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2024 is here and we are back recording new episodes. We briefly catch up on what we did during the downtime like all the Soccer Kyle coached and the genealogy work that Chris dug into. New full interview episodes coming soon.
The Loose Connection podcast is Hosted by Chris Leonard & Kyle Chirnside
email us at looseconnectionpod@gmail.com
The Loose Connection podcast is Hosted by Chris Leonard & Kyle Chirnside
email us at looseconnectionpod@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram , Facebook,
Hi Chris, happy New Year.
Speaker 2:Happy New Year, kyle. How's it going?
Speaker 1:We're back and it's not really the new year. It's like almost a month into this thing.
Speaker 2:Sorry, you know, it's all good.
Speaker 1:Family happens, dude, kind of like our last episode. When you talk about the shutdown, it's like Thanksgiving to after the New Year's either becomes super complicated or you just need to shut off, man. And I think we did. I think we did the right thing. Like we did the right thing. Yeah, we took a break.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, look, we you know, we you know. We came back and said hey, we're doing this thing. We put out three, four episodes of the Halloween thing we did James Whiteman.
Speaker 2:We did Matt Carter from Emory. I did a thing with Kevin Cleary who was with ESPN. I think it was a good taste for those who maybe had maybe been missing our voices, let's say, and conversations, to kind of see, hey, we're still kicking and still want to have these conversations. I think it was good for people who maybe hadn't heard some of this stuff that like, hey, we're going to be like kind of broadened some of these conversations. So I mean, yes, kyle and I are still around, we still want to do this. We're definitely going to be expanding our conversations, not just audio engineers. We're definitely going to have audio engineers as still, but it could be musicians, it could be backline techs, it could be genealogists, who knows?
Speaker 1:Speaking of that, let's not keep the people in the dark. Just think that we shut down and, like, did drugs and went to the weird bondage festivals and stuff like that. What'd you do during this little break, man? You've been you're busy all the time, so I know there's been some cool stuff. We've chatted here and there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, certainly, I have learned that I definitely can't sit still, both mentally and physically. And so if I'm not podcasting which you know, in the before times I was, we were podcasting every Wednesday and I was editing it, putting it out. Sometimes I was doing multiple podcasts. I had to find something that, even though we weren't podcasting, had I had to fill a time and it kind of coincided with right around Thanksgiving time ish. My mom and I went and saw some some family history stuff, you know, in Jersey, where my you know, my lettered namesake was from, and saw some grave sites and stuff.
Speaker 2:And it got us to talking into the whole, back into the ancestry thing, which I was big into genealogy Many years ago, and I was like you know what it's, you know, maybe we should try to do the DNA test thing. You know, I know I'm not adopted and that's not the path I was trying to find. Like you, no, no, no, no, I didn't mean like that, but I'm just saying, like you know, people's like first thoughts were like oh, you know, even my mom and dad were like why, no, no, no, I know you're, I'm your kid, I'm, that's not what I'm trying to question here. Right, like so much for the DNA testing.
Speaker 2:When it comes to genealogy and and like, when I dig into something, like I go hardcore, especially when it goes to genealogy, and I think it's probably why I had to put it away for a minute Back when I did it for a while because, like I get consumed. I'll spend three, four hours a night no joke digging through things and, like kids, go to bed, I'll be up to one, two o'clock in the morning. Every night is digging through things. I literally have to tell myself, okay, it's time to go to bed now and you put this away and you're going to go, you know, go to sleep.
Speaker 1:How much? How much conformity did you find in like? Because you've talked about your family Bible and there's been family books and documents that you've had around for a long time. You found some new stuff, though, like what was, what was the surprising moment?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, the the actually the biggest surprise would probably be the DNA results outside of things that I found, believe it or not, and I've, you know, through my, my grandfather is the one who inspired me on the Leonard side, so you know, was the one who inspired me to do it, and most of his research that he did back in the 60s was all just on the Leonard line, right, and and one thing I noticed when people start to think about their family history and past, they, they like to latch on to one surname. You know, I'm a Leonard, I'm a churnsider, actually, in your case, I'm a white, you know, or whatever, right? And it's like, well, no, no, hold on Every, every generation back. You know parents, grandparents, great grandparents, every generation. You double the amount of surnames that make up who you are, and so when you're like an awful math, you get like five generations back, you're at like 20, 30, some surnames that make up who you are, and so you People's sense of identity through a certain surname is really fictitious, or I don't know what the right word is, but it's, it's, it's only such a sliver what makes you are, and this is why I also, I think I was so surprised by my DNA results.
Speaker 2:So I say, let's say, is like my whole life, I fixated on this, like the genealogy of the Leonard line and I didn't think about, you know, all these other lines. And so the Leonard line comes through Switzerland and which is basically, you know, if you could apply further back is probably more Germany or whatever. So I expected there to be you know, german percentage somewhere in my DNA. Zero, none, I had no German in my DNA and I was 48% Scottish, which I have no idea what surname I get Scottish from, and it's actually to be 48%. To break it down a little bit in DNA terms, you get 50% of your DNA from your mom, 50% from your dad, so I had 25% and 24% from each of my parents of Scottish. So there is a lot of Scottish somehow somewhere in the lines and I have no idea where I came from yet, and there's English and a little Irish and some Scandinavian stuff like that or whatever. But you know that. But to be 48%, I was like wasn't even my radar.
Speaker 1:It's. It's odd for me to see you. I've noticed like I'm actually into my lineage now because of this. You know, I just it. It took me 49 years or whatever it was 50 years to figure out. You know where I was and that's where I started was the DNA test. And If it wasn't for that test and we took this back to the 90s or 80s, I think I even said this on the other podcast that we talked about like I Would have never known, like I would have had to hire a private investigator or find files and things that were locked away and I did 23 me. Some people do ancestry, like I heard. You can actually take the DNA material from both of those and put it together into it Like this super test your DNA test.
Speaker 2:Your DNA test you can download it. I mean, I could download my DNA data from ancestry, use it elsewhere. It depends on, typically, what you're trying to figure out, like. If you're trying to do genealogical work, that probably makes sense to go like ancestry. If you're trying to actually find you, in your case you knew you were adopted, you were trying to find your birth parents, and so you know. If you're trying to do that, 23, me and some other places are more likely, probably maybe the better place to go, but it all depends.
Speaker 1:All right, my head went to a weird spot. Do you have any conspiracy theories about these DNA kits and what they do with your shit?
Speaker 2:No, I'm not that type of person.
Speaker 1:I'm not either.
Speaker 2:No, I know I, but I'm also a different person when it comes to, like, public data and things like that. Obviously, I share way too much shit on social media pictures, all those things, and I just I don't know. I believe, at the end of the day, anyone who wants to get what they want, omis gonna get it I, and it's gonna be used. I was gonna be used I. I take certain precautions, obviously from a cybersecurity standpoint, but I mean, for the most part, like I'm not trying to hide.
Speaker 1:If someone at a intelligence agency is watching me and getting paid for it, more power to him, because I'm pretty fucking boring, you know, like you can't give me for the weed anymore, so ha ha, you know it is, it is what it is. But like, the DNA thing is Important, I think, to all of us, because we can do it on our dogs. Now we could figure out, like, if our, if our dogs are, you know, full-blooded, you know what else they got in them, what mutts are like. We did a DNA test on the fucking parrot brother. I am not kidding you, this bird got a DNA test. It's 40 years old. It was caught in the wild, it's male, like. Sometimes you can't look at a bird and be like, yeah, that thing's Girl or a boy, yeah.
Speaker 2:So now it remains to be seen the power in the connectivity that DNA tests can do from a genealogical standpoint. But it's I'm I've only scratched the surface on what the DNA side of it is. I've spent so many years just looking at all the other things records and stuff and that's so you know to your point. I started digging other lines that I hadn't really dug before. So like the one actually I hung up the most on, because it became so fascinating, was my dad's Mom's side, which happens to certain names Jones. So he knew his, his grandfather, john Jones. He didn't know his great-grandfather, so my two times great-grandfather, and he didn't even know his name, nothing. And so just doing the typical record Digging thing, I found, I found him, found out who he was John H Jones. His name is, which is obviously the most basic of names, are most common of names, which makes it even harder to work with. But I found out.
Speaker 2:The cool thing is I found out this guy lived a very interesting life and I learned that people used to record a lot of things in the newspaper that, quite frankly, I summoned it to like. It's kind of like a way we treat Facebook or social media these days, like there's literally clips of like him. He at one point he owned a ice truck, and there's literally a two sentences. And it's like, you know, john H Jones fell off his ice truck today and fractured his leg right, and that's all this statement. It was, you know, and there was these updates, like anyway. So I found out that he was a speakeasy owner, you know, and this is late 1800s, so like 1890 to 1900. So, for the record, the prohibition was 1920, so Alcohol wasn't illegal, but it also wasn't looked as kindly upon just yet, and so he had a speakeasy he ended up getting arrested for selling.
Speaker 2:This was Camden, New Jersey.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, sweet Camden, I've heard of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It probably was a nicer place than I'm gonna guess. But so turns out that he has speakeasy for a couple years and there was a bunch of people and not just him all got arrested for selling alcohol on Sundays. He got sentenced to a year in prison or jail for selling alcohol on Sundays. He ended up only having to do four months, I guess. I don't know if it's good behavior or whatever reason.
Speaker 1:He got it early, but you know nonetheless He'd get the guards liquor. He was like you, get me out and get you liquor.
Speaker 2:Yes, but you know, there was, like these news articles, where there was like a fight in his bar and he had to, like, you know, fight these people off and he got in charge with like assault and also charging liquor on Sundays, you know, and then like so that all I know is him. I found an ad in the directory of the name of the of the Speak Easy. It's called the American Hotel was the name of the place, and I was trying to find like a picture of the place and stuff couldn't. I mean it was, it wasn't around very long again, this is still like 1890. So it's not like cameras are floated around, you know.
Speaker 1:I would, I would, I would think in your family lineage if someone had a photo or a painting of them. Like that kind of is significant. You know what I mean. In in, like the, in the stuff that was going on. I wonder, if, wonder if Camden in the 19th or 1800s was like a trade port. It had to be right, it had to be like a.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was. There was a port there. I mean it was right across from Philadelphia, you know. So I mean it's right, I mean it faces Phillies, so I mean there's definitely stuff there. The more interesting thing that I haven't fully connected, but I think it's him is a little bit earlier in his life there was a guy by the same name who lives in the same area, who was arrested multiple times for stealing and was in and out of jail a little bit to the point where he escaped from jail. And then he went into an insane asylum three different times. He escaped from there as well and and it's funny, Mr Jones lived a rich life.
Speaker 2:But in the middle there he became. You know, he was actually a policeman for a year or two, which was odd, and they worked for the ice company. The ice company they had a depiction of, apparently on the ice cart or whatever. President Garfield, the late President Garfield at the time Like it's just fascinating. So I started, I spent like almost a solid week doing nothing but digging into this one dude and the interesting thing is like I'm painting a picture of a person that no one in my family knows anything about, has ever known, but you're able to craft a narrative of who this person was without actually ever having to meet this person, and that that's just the fun. You know detective side of it or whatever that I enjoy, like digging up these things that no one tells you you're right or wrong. So you got to investigate, you got to compare this document, compare this, put all these notes together. That's just the fun side of it. And I'm rambling now about someone that no one actually cares about.
Speaker 1:But I think it's super interesting that you took the time to do that. I mean, and I'm just doing that locally right now. I just say locally because my aunt is kind of the genealogist for my mom's side and here's a little tidbit of information about me that nobody knows the whole, the whole priest thing on Halloween, for the video was inspired by my grandfather because he was a presbyterian minister and if you saw pictures of me on Halloween I was wearing a hat. That's my grandfather's hat. So every time I go see my mom she's like damn, you look like daddy. Damn you look like daddy. So I'm just trying to cowboy up a little bit here and there because like grandpa was tough, like he'd stand on the back of horses with like little 22 pistols and stuff like that, and it's kind of like your story.
Speaker 1:You know, dude went to jail, you owned a speaking Like it's just like little dirty like thing that, just like you, you feel like you can connect to, and that's why I think the DNA test is super cool, like eventually I want to get back further. The coolest thing that I found out by far hands down, the coolest thing is the great times. Five grandfather was the first Britishman born in Plymouth Rock on the Mayflower Paragon, paragon White, and his brother's name. I'm going to name a dog this. I swear to God. His brother's name was ransom and I'm like yes.
Speaker 1:But as far as like significant characters in history, like the dude has a fucking museum with his baby crib in it, but he was just kind of like a mayor or a city council person and like he, he's probably just boring like me. You know, like if, if the CIA was watching that, they're just like this guy's boring. His whole, his whole future family is just going to be boring and that's probably why I ended up the way I am. What else do we do during break?
Speaker 2:You have done a shit ton of soccer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I kind of find my due passion.
Speaker 2:Coaching playing.
Speaker 1:Here's the story about that and I only tell like personal folks and I've told this to you before but like I tell you what I did audio and touring and submersed myself into it for 32 plus years and I still love it. I still go to my local church and mix and like I'd still do shows here and there and I got some Mac stuff coming up. But I tell you what something about it like I feel joy in reffing, coaching and playing more than I've ever felt in my entire life. And I think I'm going to give shout out to my daughter Kemper. I kind of forced her to do this from a young age and now I'm her coach and I got nine girls that are. They call me coach. Eight of them do. The other one calls me dad and it's weird, but it's joy. And you did it too, dude. It's like I didn't have any influence on you doing it, I'm sure, but like every time you'd send me pictures of the girls playing soccer, I was like let's go. That's cuz. Uncle Kyle and St Louis, let's go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I mean you know I would see. So my middle child she's six it was like you know she didn't dance for a couple years. Hey, do I try something different? It's like yeah, I want to soccer. Cool, you know, I played soccer in high school and I mean, you know, like for a year or two I wasn't much. My brother was a big soccer player and and so I had signed up to, like I don't know, assistant coach or just help out the team.
Speaker 1:You know I'm gonna be that guy like.
Speaker 2:I'll help. Right and it's short. It is like Wreckley, you know, like hey, we need some volunteers to actually coach, for short on coaches, and like son of a gun, I'm like I played in high school. I guess I could do it, don't worry about it. We'll give you the, we'll give you the materials We'll help you out of beyond you texted me that day and you were so happy.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I was, I was excited to do it, but it was like the. So the first practice I was like oh man, I'm in over my head on this, though, like there's like 14 kids, 13 of which don't want to be there, you know, and just like running drills and stuff. But no, it certainly was. It was definitely a lot of fun. Got more fun once I got another like assistant coach to help, because one person with like even 10 kids, it's just like too much. And once you could actually focus and you know, see the games and stuff it was. It was. It was a lot of fun, for sure.
Speaker 1:So I'll make this worth the people's 20 30 minute listen that they're gonna do this.
Speaker 2:We lost them when I start talking about my genealogy.
Speaker 1:So parental advice. So this is for parents with kids and and how to do, like how to get them into activities and make them stay quit asking them if they want to do it again. And I did that with Kemper when I was a kid. I didn't have a choice. I played Teeble T-ball in the spring. I played soccer in the fall, like I didn't even Ask for it or was good at it or like new, need those kids or anything. I just knew that in the spring I was playing T-ball, in the fall I was playing soccer or baseball or whatever it turned into. And we did that with camp where it was like gymnastics and it was swimming, then it was ice skating and and Someone told me they're like don't ask them, just keep a minute, because they're gonna change their mind. Like whatever day it is, it'll be like oh, there's something cool on YouTube today, you know, I watch a 30 minute farting video like that's way and way more important than Going to soccer practice.
Speaker 1:But Kemper, from age three until To like right before Christmas, has played soccer of some sort, you know, from Little kicker Ruse to all the way to club soccer. Now and here's the cool thing about it I see her working as a team. Now she said some shit to me at one of the last games and I just I stopped. I Usually put Kim in and she plays keep for a half and then I put this other girl in so Kim can go run the field and try To score goal, because she got her first goal this season with the club team. And, dude, the girl lit up like crazy, like it was insane, like all her teammates went ape shit, like it was crazy. So she wants to go play the field. She's a great keeper. Like this girl has no fear. So I put her in the first half, did good, we're coming out, we're tied.
Speaker 1:Second half, I put juju in, kim took off her goalkeeper jersey, got on her regular jersey ready to go in, and juju led a couple go by and I was like oh no, we were just like handling these dudes. And I could tell like the girls were getting kind of Flustrated and we were losing. And I turned around and Kemper was putting on her jersey and her gloves and she goes dad, I need to go in. I and I stopped and Kemper went in and killed it like stopped it, no more goals. The girls went, scored three more and we won the game. Like oh, wow.
Speaker 1:So I saw things with her that I had never seen before, like she figured out what a team was and what it, what it meant for her to Sacrifice, wanting to go score a goal for the team. It was better for her to go back in and save goals. And then I started seeing stuff at practice like be applied on the field by all the girls and Like I just wasn't know, like do you can't mimic that? I'm sure there's teachers out there that feel the same way, like they teach a class and like it's hard in that setting. You know it's not a dynamic setting like being on a soccer field or like the adrenaline, the running, the craziness and stuff like that. But that light bulb moment that she cognitively said that I need to go into goal right now and stop this, like what.
Speaker 1:So we took off winner session because I figured it was good for the girls to chill out, because club soccer at ten years old, just like I don't want to burn her out, I just want to have fun. You know, make friends have fun. So we start here in a couple weeks but I have been refing and I have been playing. My team came in first and third, respectfully, in the last two sessions. I'm playing with kids half my age and, dude, I can't stop like I when I know I got to go to work or I know I got a game. Like I need that, I need that. And at 51 man, I know it's all gonna come slowly to an end, but I'm gonna be a coach for a while and I'm gonna take some more classes and I'm gonna get all the certifications I can do to stay with camp for as long as I can.
Speaker 2:No, that's great. Yeah, only on the idea of like Forcing or telling you what they're gonna do. Yeah, I've wrestled with that and there is some level of like wanting them to figure out what they want to do, versus like you know how much would if you just push them to like, hey, just do this for a season and then figure it out for us. I think you know, my wife and I definitely agree in that if you start something in a finish in other words, like if you start a dance season, a soccer season, a big, whatever season you're gonna finish it. I'll give it a middle. You don't like it, you're gonna finish the season. But I mean at the same time, you know, if she, at the end of the season didn't like it I don't know that I would have her do it again.
Speaker 1:She didn't like it a couple times. But I just signed her up because the sessions were like six weeks. You know what I mean. And then, yeah, no it's.
Speaker 2:And now, when we stop doing it.
Speaker 1:This is my whole point. When we stop doing it, like we've been off since Just after Thanksgiving from soccer, and she's like dad, when do we? When do we start soccer again? I want to see Sabrina, I want to see Juju, I want to see like, and that's how I know that it's okay that we push through those times that she didn't like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean like when I look back, I kind of wish I was forced to play an instrument, specifically piano.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with you on the piano because it's like it's one of those things that, even if I wasn't liked in the moment, I feel like now I would have like thanked my parents for like Thank you for forcing me to do that, because it would have built a foundational thing. And maybe sports is the same way it's like. So maybe it's like whatever you, you know, may not be music or may not be sports, but just you know pushing and we've always said that to like our kids, like you're going to do something, you're gonna do some type of extracurricular activity, you know, maybe that's why we've lean towards them picking something, because at least you're doing something.
Speaker 1:You know there's never an option for you to like not doing they ever pick anything super fucking odd, like they're like oh, I want to make pottery for the next four weeks or whatever. Like.
Speaker 2:Not, not yet. I mean the only thing that would have been odd. I mean, like when Carly went to middle school and my oldest you know, she picked up flute for a little bit, you know, and quite frankly, you know, because, like the school has you put a band, you want to do this, you want to do this. I'm like, yeah, this seems fun and flashy. I think the only reason she actually stopped playing an instrument was because the pandemic, like she had picked up fluke and be like the right year, we're right, right year before pandemic, and the pandemic hit, there was no band classes and then just kind of lost its thing and you know.
Speaker 1:So I don't you have a year remains to be. Have a year and a half to figure out that flute. Is it good?
Speaker 2:What the fuck is a flute like?
Speaker 1:for a year and a half I've been worrying about wearing a mask.
Speaker 2:I can play flute, but I'm heading into heavy volleyball season with Carly, my oldest, you know she's. She's 15, so she's playing club volleyball. We have seven tournaments over the next what? Three months? Four months, so lots of lots of volleyball on my, my near future.
Speaker 1:She got a little press coaching. I'm not doing nothing, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just watching she got a lot of press to do chat, a little news, clip beans and like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from the high school, let's go, you know, and do that's so good for the kids. Ego, like nowadays. I told I tell Kemper all the time I'm like just be involved in stuff in school, I think if I could go back, like everyone always is like, oh, could you go back and change anything? Usually I'm like no, I don't regret anything, I'll do it. I'll just do it the same fucking way, maybe even smoke more weed or sell more. I don't know. But that's one thing I I can see my daughter doing is like being involved in school stuff and they're with those teachers and People around that school longer than they're with us once they get in full swing of being a student.
Speaker 2:Just like when you're a worker, right, yeah, you're on your around your co-workers more than you're with your family and stuff.
Speaker 1:And in Kimson only child I mean, she has older brother and sister. Burke and Haley are both, you know, in their 20s, so like, and they don't live here, so, um, it's good for her. Like they always say it takes a village right, so, and and and that's why I think if you're gonna be involved in something sports, music or school at that point in their life is, like it's imperative because they're gonna learn more from the people you surround them with in their most, you know, sensitive years man, middle school to high school like they're gonna learn a lot more from them and listen to a lot more people from that than they are you and mom, you know at some point, and I think it's just a good way, like, quit asking a social skills. That's why I say quit asking. It's not like a ditch, it's like don't make them force them to. You know, do wrestling in a singlet, you know, or whatever. It's more like make them see the Stability of being involved and being on a team and continuously doing it, even if you don't like it.
Speaker 1:You know what. We all had jobs that we didn't fucking like, and my daughter's already coming home and I was like how school did it. She's like you know what I mean. So I, what keeps it not is going to stupid bingo nights at school, getting them involved with sports, like you know, going to see the school choir or orchestra or whatever thing. That you're going to hate for 30 minutes, you know, but it's so good for them I really think it is. Yeah, dad, dad talk.
Speaker 2:Dad talk. Yes, if you're still here at this point, you know, kyle and I just catching up on life here. Maybe we'll do this from time to time. I think it's cool for you know, those who don't know us maybe personally, to kind of get on the inside of just kind of who we are, what we do. And if you I don't know are on our socials, our personal socials, you probably see a lot of stuff anyway all day. But you know, look, you know again we are. You know, kyle and I are trying to double down here on Luz Connection in 24. Yes, and try to make it a weekly thing, you know, like we've done in the past, and expand our horizons of who we're talking about. And you know we have audio engineers, backline texts, authors, musicians. We have all kinds of people lined up that we want to kind of just dabble in and kind of see where it goes and, you know, have some good, fun conversations.
Speaker 1:So you know and make sure. One thing that we should mention, chris, is like we appreciate all the responses from our old podcast people saying that they miss our voice and whatever. So please tell people. You know, cinema invite for our pages, instagram we're going to get a little bit more active. You know we're not the young pups that we used to be, so we don't know how this like social media. We have to ask our kids. You know what's cool and, uh, speak for yourself. And we're going to try to get a little bit more active and see where this can go, because I really think that the community that we we had built last time, we can have double that, at least you know, with a lot of people having open conversations about things that you know people aren't having open conversations about. You know, and check out our archive of podcasts that we got now. We got a bunch of good guests from one till eight now, isn't it?
Speaker 2:We have nine official episodes, like with guests, and then, obviously, colin and I have ramble on a handful of others at this point, but so nine official guests and many, many more to come. Yeah, at loose connection pod on Facebook, instagram and Tik Tok and you will, you know, start to see, or she?
Speaker 1:yeah, shoot us a DM to tell us hello, we miss a lot of you that have moved over and that are continuing on with us. And then we'd love to hear from some new folks that are like hey, man, this is awful, what are you doing with your life? Whatever you got to say, man, we would love to have the same kind of relationship with our audience, because we're not going to do this for ourselves, we want to do it for everybody and we want to bring some of our cool friends on that. We think can, you know, change the way we think about things or look at things from a different perspective, or even get insight into things that we're not really sure about. So it's a. It's a journey, like Crystal say.
Speaker 2:It's a journey like um you're finally coming around that you didn't like that term before I just don't like the headspace thing Like I want.
Speaker 1:I want like that song to come on. I'm like no, no, not that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, let's. Let's all go on a ride for together. And I guess you know the biggest thing yeah, follow our socials. That's great, whatever. But more importantly, just tell somebody that's the biggest way this is going to get out there. So if you missed our voice, you're still around here after us rambling about some home life bullshit. Tell a friend, say, hey, you know, kyle and Chris are still kicking, still having some cool conversations, and look forward to seeing y'all down the road for the record.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna set the record straight right here. Chris, the record is going to be set straight. Arms length game was my fucking idea and I brought a bunch of cool shit down here as of recently, but since we're talking about it in arms Leith for me is nine little fucking girls in a badass looking coach. St Louis Development Academy 2014 gray team. Let's go. Girls what.
Speaker 2:All right, I guess, if we're doing arms reach, I just cleaned off my desk. But someone who we will have on the podcast coming up, philip Criss I have his new book, the Rode Cartel, and so he is was one of us and by that I mean former touring audio engineer who, during the pandemic, said what the hell am I gonna do with the rest of my life? And and got out and decided to become an author. And he spent the last three years writing this book, this fiction novel, maybe not, maybe some of us, not fiction to some, but I'm just kidding. The Rode Cartel is super cool. I'm not gonna dig much into it now because we're gonna spend a whole episode on talking to Philip about it, but just go check it out ahead of time, you know, go go to Amazon, buy. Support fellow.
Speaker 2:Rode even if you're not even a fellow Rode, it's a cool fiction novel. Go go, go check it out.
Speaker 1:So the Rode Cartel glad to be back, chris. I know we say it over text message all the time. Thank you guys for listening. Loose connection is a thing and it's going to become a better thing and a bigger thing, and it's all from the help of you guys. Thanks, check out our socials. We'll talk to you guys soon.